Is there still an opening in the market for a book on Babygate?
TheImmoralMinority.blogspot.com for many months touted a forthcoming book about Babygate by "Fred." Indeed, the site allowed the author to post the question of what the book's name should be, and hundreds of readers made suggestions, with "The Wild Ride" being selected as the winner, as I recall.
I wondered at the time if the site's proprietor had some sort of stake in the book, since he seemed to be trying to stir up interest in it – the name-the-book campaign struck me as a clever marketing ploy. And if that is what it was, more power to everyone involved.
But the book never came out, as far as I can tell. Who knows what may have happened. But an effect of all the talk at IM about Fred's book was to discourage anyone else from taking on such a project. One is tempted to say to Fred, whoever she or he may be, have a bowel movement or get off the pot.
So my question to you all is: Has the moment passed for a book on Babygate to be commercially viable? Palin seems to be fading into political irrelevance. No doubt, those of you reading this column would like to see such a book, but you are an elite group. I'm wondering if enough of the public at large would care at this point who Trig's mother was to fuel sales of such a book. Or maybe the correct question to ask is, Would any mainstream publisher at this point believe that the public at large would care enough to buy such a book?
Personally, I would not get involved in a book project without having a publisher lined up. And I fear "Fred" managed to dissuade potential writers for so long that no publisher would now be tempted by the topic. What do you all think?
Does anyone have any insight into what happened to Fred and his/her book?
I think that book's time has past.
ReplyDeleteKlondyke Kardashian, the Wasilla Wombat, the simpleton that is $arah Palin is becoming irrelevant.
She's quit too. many. things. to be taken seriously anymore. She hasn't mastered the very basics of The Basics (Paul Revere's "Wild Ride", anyone?).
Only her most loyal followers re-arrange their schedules to catch her on certain Fox News shows; and those mouth-breathing, knuckle-dragging numbskulls stoopid enough to tune into Hannity or Pirro's shows are legendary for their gullibility - and viciousness toward her detractors - which is most everyone nowadays...
She has no show of her own. Her last book is in the bargain bins at Dollar Tree and Walmart. The Iowa earthquake failed to move the Richter Scale needles. Her "Undefeated" movie failed miserably at the box office - and in it's DVD afterlife. EVEN BUNDLED with one of her books - nobody is buying it - or her - anymore.
Her daughter can't sell her "reality show". Her effeminate husband can't sell his snowmobile adventure show. Her youngest son - that is, her "pro-life" claim to fame - hasn't been seen in public, or with her, for over a year.
She's become the poster child for quitting, in-articulation, stealing others limelight (Romney's candidacy, Bachmann's appearance at Iowa State Fair) and riding others coat-tails (hello, "Rolling Thunder!"). She's become predictable with her "unpredictability".
She's a FAILURE who maximized her public persona for far longer than her talent or expertise could support. Bottom line: Palin's self over-exposure has made her Passe.
"Her youngest son ... hasn't been seen in public, or with her, for over a year."
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Also notable was Sarah's weird recent interview where she brought up the Shailey Tripp masseusse claims, and said that it was the origin of the controversy about Trig "which I deal with every day."
Why is she saying this - why is she dealing with this issue every day? She could easily forget it or ignore it, seemingly.
Excellent points, KAO. I'll just play devil's advocate and suggest that precisely because she has been such a monumental disappointment in so many ways, perhaps a certain part of the public might like to see her get what she deserves for being such a faker.
ReplyDeleteIMO there isn't a market look what happened to Joe McGinniss he was basically crucified by the media. Baby gate wasn't even the main focus. I personally believe the only thing that will take her downside her PAC spending if the FEC ever gets off its butt and gets to work. What is ironic is those same journalist that protected Palin are now trying to protect Romney while the GOP is attacking each other.
ReplyDeleteWhat I would like to see is an investigation on why the RNC gave her quarter of a million dollars for her supposed legal fees while her PAC pays that same firm a monthly retainer.
I'm sorry Brad I forgot to say Thanks for all work you are doing with this.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Dusty. I think McGinniss may have gotten crucified for bringing up the Rice affair and other unsavory things that some reviewers may have felt went too far. He started out his own Babygate chapter by saying he did not believe in the hoax himself, sending a really mixed message and an easy out for any reviewer who wanted to say the same despite the evidence. I'm not saying he was wrong to handle it that way, just that the commercial viability of a book that takes the hoax on directly should not be judged by his book's reception.
ReplyDeleteI'd like to add my thanks to you as well, Brad.
ReplyDeleteAnd I would agree with your assessment that McGinness's not believing the hoax didn't help. Rather than a book, though, why not a Vanity Fair article ... or something along those lines. I'd live to ram it down this chick's throat. But they, that's just me.
Run54: To tell the entire story, I think you need a book length manuscript. So, a book would be a nice way to go, if a willing publisher got behind it. The trick would be to sell the story idea. It could unfold as a mystery, but instead of a who-done-it, it would be a who-birthed-it.
ReplyDeleteOnly THREE people know 'for sure' that Sarah Palin was/wasn't pregnant. Sarah, Todd and Dr Baldwin-Johnson.
ReplyDeleteMAYBE there is a woman out there who can prove she is Trigg's mom --but I doubt it. Depending on how many women gave up babies for adoption at the time, (let's say there's 5 of them, for argument's sake) then how would the real Mom know that 'her baby' morphed into Trigg Palin?
Anyone who says they 'saw Palin' after the 'birth' doesn;t know -- they saw a woman lying in a hospital bed who says she just had a baby, and that looks like a woman lying in a hospital bed, nothing more.
Anyone who says they 'saw' Palin 'pregnant' doesn't know -- they saw a woman with a large abdomen under clothes who says she is pregnant. Who doubts that anyway, in the real world?
I have always believed that Dr CBJ had no idea about this until it was too late to speak-out (or illegal, which Sarah counted on) Dr CBJ is both protected AND silenced by HIPPA.
- She may have arranged an adoption, not knowing that Sarah's plan was to fake a pregnancy and by the time she knew, it was too late...
- She may not have made the connection (or even doubted) that when Sarah 'announced' that she was pregnant, that it wasn't true..
- She had no idea that at some point, she'd have to put her name on the 'dotted line' for a VP candidate. By that time, what else could she do? Doctors do things for powerful patients all the time, look at Dr Murray w/Michael Jackson.
- Sarah was the Governor at the time .. how hard would it be to obtain a Birth Certificate, for a birth that everyone expected anyway? I have no doubt that she HAS one, but she won't present it because once she actually does, it can be verified (just like Obama's)
-- Somewhere in Alaska, an ultra-sound tech is thinking: She must have had that ultra-sound on my day off
-- Somewhere in Alaska, a claims adjuster is thinking: She must have paid cash for that ultra-sound
-- Somewhere in Alaska, a whole lot of people are thinking: She didn't look pregnant to me, but who would lie about a thing like that?
SDH: Who says they saw Palin in bed at hospital that day? No one I know of outside of her lying family, and the lying Levi. And why do you seem to think the baby came from outside her immediate family?
ReplyDelete1-Frank Bailey said he saw her in hospital and she had just had the baby ... but that isn't proof of anything, it just means he saw her in a hospital bed.
ReplyDelete2- I think it's likely that the baby came from outside family-- more likely than it being Bristol's. I just don't see Levi/Mercedes & family not spilling the beans on that if it had been Bristol's.
As to whether there is a market for a Babygate book, I think that it depends upon the scope of the book. The big story is the overall one--who enabled the hoax and still enables the coverup (McCain campaign? Koch brothers? RNC?). I think that there would be a huge market for that book. Babygate is analogous to a symptom, the behind-the-scenes enabling and scheming is the disease. We need to learn about the whole disease, not just the symptom.
ReplyDeleteI tend to agree with your view on that.
DeleteIn itself, the hoax no longer amounts to much more than a petty 'scandal' since Sarah is deeply irrelevant in any way that can/could affect the country.
But, if it was proven that the McCain campaign helped in a cover-up, that would be very interesting to many.
..... It's not the crime, it's the cover-up. :)
SDH: No, Bailey did not say he saw her in bed:
ReplyDeletehttp://scharlottsbeacon.blogspot.com/2011/12/bearing-witness-who-claims-they-saw.html
Levi was likely bought off. Mercede and her mother have been shown smoke and mirrors, I think. But there is also the legal threat over the mother, which might also account for Levi's willingness to go along. Allison at ThePalinPlace details the many inconsistencies in his book. No way he has been wholly truthful.
Jo - the problem with enlarging the scope to take in Koch brothers, etc., is evidence. I could see maybe linking Paxson of Christian Broadcasting Network, but even that is very circumstantial. Without evidence, such a book would be dismissed as a partisan screed.
ReplyDeleteAs to McCain's involvement, again there is just circumstantial evidence.
ReplyDeleteBut the hoax is interesting because of what it says about our mass media. Also, the hoax is a great story, or could be if skillfully enough written.
Hi Brad,
DeleteThanks for all you do, I just tweeted out your classified. :) Now SOMETHING made her decide NOT to run for POTUS...! Something that wasn't apparent at first for her VP run. I think it was TriG. Remember the day after her speech Daily Kos had the post up that TriG wasn't hers.
Now remember in Baileys book how she wanted a reality show? Way back when? And then went ahead and signed a bill into place. I think she even said to Bailey about what if she had another baby.
And who did cover up? McCain? Why ISN'T she running for POTUS? Really Why? Just think how she could gin up $$$$$ another book or two etc.
So there is a reason WHY she isn't although she isn't sitting down and shutting up.
I think a book is a great idea. I would buy it. Remember This vile woman could of been POTUS!!! And her hillbilly family! She was a HEARTBEAT away and our msm Journolist decided this wasn't important enough to discuss?
And heck she just validated all TriG truthers last night with her tweet! :)
Brad Go for it!!!!
I for one want to see such a book, even if it is only fifty pages. At the present time Sarah's star is waning but time has a way of making people forget and forgive. I wouldn't want to see her return in the future.
ReplyDeleteSarah hoaxed the voting public so her malfeasance deserves to have the light of truth shone on it. She needs to be exposed with hard evidence for the phony she is.
Perhaps when MeAgain started giving Gryphen Babygate evidence, and he shared it with "Fred" (though certainly not with us), The Wild Ride had to be revised to incorporate it.
ReplyDeleteThat's a lot of time for revisions! The book was supposed to come out three months ago. Maybe Fred has skeletons in his or her closet – you wouldn't want a cannibal putting out a book about Palin's sins. But who could stop him from publishing?
ReplyDeletePerhaps Palin threatened to set up Fred's mom for selling pain pills. That one keeps working on Levi.
ReplyDeleteIf a publisher is backing out, but a manuscript exists, they should use Create Space and get it on Amazon. Could massage the text into the CS format over a couple of days. Kindle could be even faster but I'm not sure if it handles photos yet.
I'm mulling over your Q Brad about a book. I'd say as long as an author doesn't quit his/her day job, it's worth a shot. I would love to have a book with photos and facts, even if short, to send to all my friends and family who roll their eyes when I state as fact that Palin faked Trig's pregnancy.
What if my mom was a hooker? She wasn't, but just saying. And what about me and my sordid past? I was once a cross-dresser. It was a costume party. But I did like wearing those frilly things. What if Palin got her hands on some of those photos? Plus I wear a gown with a funny hat every semester . . . for graduation ceremonies.
ReplyDeleteTo me, it's not about Palin but about those who enabled this hoax. They can read blogs and see the Mar 14 photo (and other photos) just as well as we can; they too can see that it is impossible that she was pregnant as stated. So they DO know. They undoubtedly know a few add'l key facts that we do not. And the MSM blackout on the hoax sure is consistent with:
ReplyDelete-- "Fred" disappearing.
-- The odd recent McCain announcement that Palin was his "best decision ever."
-- McGinniss's failure to engage interest in the hoax.
I will guess that it will be v hard to find a publisher -- or if you find one, they will back out. Not a reason for not trying, though. Although by revealing your concept (the new take on the story) you alert the MSM muzzlers (via the publishing grapevine) and they will eventually get to you IMO. Not via anything too nefarious but by something like making it more profitable for your publisher to back out.
So: there's self-publishing. Marketing is the big problem there. I bet you would get few reviews, interviews. You would fare far worse than McGinniss. I say you should talk to McG to get his advice -- I bet he has thought about this a lot and has data points that we do not.
And there's finding an academic conference at which you could present a paper on the Spiral of Silence and MSM blackouts. Who is behind them (who owns the media?)? How they seem to work in practice (McG for some data points here).
I keep comparing the MSM blackout to the Madoff discovery: the info was all there several years earlier, but it had no legs. If the economy had crashed a little less badly, Madoff would prob still be doing business at the same old stand.
So what is the larger issue or detail that will ignite the PalinHoax into exposure? I'm currently voting for Colbert picking Amy Sedaris for VP, having her fake a pregnancy. But Colbert has many other v important, delicious fish to fry; I cannot argue with his approach so far.
Re the book: my thoughts turn to a picture book (so semi-illiterate people can get it): simple but showing the key points: NOT pregnant; who are the enablers? that we don't care about SP's family or the bioMom of Trig, but only about the hoax and its enablers)
So sad that this will prob die and fade.
Isn't it true that historically artists -- almost alone, in really bad times -- have dared to speak truth to power? That's why I wrote to Letterman and Sedaris some time ago, begging them to do via humor what the MSM have failed to do: inform the electorate about the hoax and its implications. My idea was:
ReplyDelete-- Have Amy fake her pregnancy on Letterman,
-- Letterman challenges it as a fake,
-- Amy rebuts that he's just jealous because HIS fake pregnancy wasn't as a good a fake as SP's, and that was the REAL reason they had the spat;
-- Show photos of Letterman's head on Demi Moore's VF cover photo, describe his parallel "wild ride"
-- Then Dave punctures Amy's pregnancy to prove it is fake; it deflates
-- Amy pouts that it's not fair: how come SP could fake it and Amy cannot ?? (Amy does a GREAT pout)
Where's Jonathan Swift when we need him?
I think there's an audience for such a book, if only because true crime is a genre that a lot of people are interested in, and this is very close to a crime. I think, though, instead of "The Wild Ride" it ought to be titled something pretty damn overt, like "The Fraud" with that picture of Sarah in the hallway- you know, the picture that appeared at the end of August 2008 and "proved" that Sarah was pregnant the previous spring- on the cover. There should be something to connect The Fraud with Sarah Palin, to sort of establish the expectations.
ReplyDeleteI think "The Wild Ride" is a great chapter title, though.
And at the end, there should be a chapter giving a rundown of all the other "gates" in her life. Or maybe at the beginning. The problem is that most people tend to assume that other people are basically normal, and she's not. So if they start reading the book thinking she's basically normal, they're going to think "Why would anybody do that?" If they read the first chapter, about the lying, the vindictiveness, Troopergate, et cetera, et cetera, when the story about the phony pregnancy starts, people have it established in their minds that there's already something wrong with this woman.
Deeply wrong.
"[M]ost people tend to assume that other people are basically normal, and she's not."
DeleteOnce again Ivyfree, you are spot on. Took me a long time back at Audrey's to figure this out and stop commenting that Palin wouldn't do whatever because it didn't make sense.
I have to wonder if Fred's so called book was a false flag operation.
ReplyDeleteMe too. I didn't before, but now, . . . .
DeleteI have tried many times to tell you people the truth. I know the whole stinking story, and a big stinker it is. Most of you trust the wrong damn people. That's all I am going to say. For those of you who have used your brains to seek the truth, I salute you. The rest of you can wait, wait, and wait some more for that magic bullet that no one intends to shoot.
ReplyDeleteFloyd, I beg to differ. You have never tried to tell us. You have given all kinds of coy hints and clues, but I have yet to see you just say it, plain and simple. It's always a statement like the one above, but never a straight story. How about just telling us? What benefit do you get from this endless tease? And how can it be that you know "the whole stinking story," anyway? When it appears that no one else does? And if you do know it, how did you learn it?
ReplyDeleteHe want you to buy his book.
DeleteGrrrrr, I know, but I suspect his thesis is in riddles there, too. Every author I respect (Max Blumental, McGinnis, Dunn, to name just some that touch our subject) tells his potential readers clearly and concisely what's in the book. And I have bought those. The comment like this from Floyd gives me NO reason to hope there's anything more in the book than the above kind of comments. No other writer that I buy says "I know something YOU don't know, and if you only had the brains to follow my clues, you would get it. The rest of you brainless people? Too bad for you." Pretty insulting. What allows Floyd to say he knows who I/we trust? Except an ego. I want clear, concise facts rather than someone's speculative comprehensive view of the world. I have my own sources that I trust and respect for that latter info. Am I being too harsh? I hope not. I'm not killing the messenger: a messenger has to deliver a message first, and I have yet to hear one, except what idiots the rest of us are. I just want Floyd to join the effort and pull together.
DeleteCrystalwolflady: have you read Floyd's book? did it reveal "the whole stinking story"?
No I haven't. sorry :(
DeleteSame here, if you know something spit it out! We have enough deciphering the lies of the paylins.
Floyd -- I just went back to your site to re-read. What I find is you saying "I think" and "I am sure that" and then spinning a version that could well be correct, but where's the beef? The proof that you are correct? That you KNOW? We all of us 3-yr veterans of this issue have thoughts, opinions, certainties, and the "I really really really for sure believe" moments. My certainty of the hoax is based on the the photos (like the Mar 14 one), not on the mounds of circumstantial data that tell us the same thing but are not proof. I theorize we have an MSM blackout, but I don't have proof. (The disappearance of the Behar/McG video is suggestive but not proof.) I agree with much that you say, but I have never had reason to believe you know the whole stinking story -- because you never say what it is and how you know whatever it is.
ReplyDeleteI would love to learn your view, stated concisely and clearly. I don't see why you can't just say it plainly (if indeed you know something we do not). You say you are on the same side, but you are not behaving like it. Let's work together! Please. This is too important to do anything else.
Even Gryphen, whose blog is consistently interesting and rarely 'wrong' has made a 'for sure' and " I KNOW" claim, but never backed it up - he claims to have 'sources' that he is 'protecting' and while this might very well be true, nevertheless, he's never been able to come out with proof. If anyone could, it would be Gryphen.
ReplyDeleteI am not saying Sarah did give birth to Trig; but if there is anyone out there other than Dr CBJ who can prove it, that person isn't coming forward. If Gryphen or anyone else could prove it they would have done it by now.. the story is old now.
I wish Gryphen would break the story, once and for all. I am not buying this source protection story anymore though.
Amy1, your blogger heroes are con artists. Your reaction here is exactly WHY I am never going to spell it out for you. I DO NOT KNOW THE TOTAL, EXACT TRUTH OF BABYGATE! The difference between me and the con artists is that I have never claimed otherwise. Frankly, Amy1, I am appalled at your attitude. You have read the other books; why not mine? What I do know is the truth of the blog wars. The blog wars have been blocking the national exposure of Babygate for three years now. Unknown 12:22 above is closer to the truth than you are.
ReplyDeleteFloyd, honestly, I've got your book and there is no big, new, mysterious information there regarding babygate. There are plenty of interesting, humorous and creative ideas - but no surprises for those of us following this story for the last three years. So if you have something to contribute that is significant, clear and to the point, please enlighten us.
ReplyDeleteAnd another thing, the big, stinking truth to which I refer is NOT in PARADIGM SHIFT. I totally took the high road when I edited the book because I did not want the blog wars to get in the way of spreading the Babygate fraud to a national scale. I began to suspect the truth about this issue in early 2010, but I did not want it to cloud the book's central subject matter of our nation's social and economic history and how the stage was set for the Dominionists to launch Palin's national political career. After two years of research to find the source of precisely why the Babygate story has yet to break nationally, I uncovered the stench.
ReplyDeleteFloyd: I have trouble understanding you.
ReplyDeleteFor exmple, right on this page: "I know the whole stinking story" vs. "I DO NOT KNOW THE TOTAL, EXACT TRUTH OF BABYGATE!"
On your blog: "Who do you think actually knows the whole story, him or me?" (Not sure if "him" is Fred? Brad? Jesse?)
I don't know what you mean about blog wars. Disagreements? Sure. As always in human interactions about stuff we care about. But wars? That conceal the info we might otherwise have? I don't see it.
If you were more clear and helped us lesser mortals understand, I would want to read your book. (If "conscious at last" recommended it, I would read it immediately.)
Amy1, I know the whole story of Fred and Brad probably does not. Several of the key bloggers have been playing games with us for years. You will never discover the truth until you stop the hero worship and begin digging up what is driving those games. I have to continually speak in riddles directly because of the sacred cows. PARADIGM SHIFT was not written to tell you the secret you so much want to hear. I began writing the book in 1990 when Bush Sr. was President! I cut hundreds of pages and updated it with the Palin Phenomenon to bring the subject matter up to date. The main purpose of the book as it pertains to Babygate was to hopefully take the issue to a larger audience than just the Babygate blog readers, and to explain the phenomenon within a larger context. The stench now emanates from the histories of the bloggers involved. You have never found the closure you so desperately seek because closure has never been their primary goal. Do you get it now?
ReplyDelete"I have to continually speak in riddles directly because of the sacred cows."
DeleteThat statement reminds me of Griffin and his "I can't say what I know" lines.
Floyd why can't you just tell us what you mean. Who is the con artist? Jesse or PG.
ReplyDeleteAnd if closure isn't what they want, what is their purpose exactly? Neither blog is making a living off of it.
I wish you would just tell us about Fred and the truth. Someone should. What bad thing would happen to you if you did.
I'm a smart person and I'm still not completely sure about what / who you are talking about.
I guess I'm dense.
Floyd, no I do not get it. WHAT sacred cows? What secret? What stench? What histories? What "whole story"? What hero worship?? (Tip: try not to tell me what I desperately seek or who I worship, because I know more about my own thoughts than you do, and it makes everything else you say look as weak as your statements on this subject.) You are just playing games.
ReplyDeleteWhy should we think you have some special knowledge re Fred or bloggers when you hint and imply endlessly but never state anything clearly. How would you have gotten that special knowledge? Why do you keep bringing all this up if you don't want to contribute to our shared info base??
I think most of us understand the larger context of the hoax.Perhaps differently and perhaps EVEN MORE ACCURATELY than you do. We also know that bloggers have differences, disagreements. So what? If there is something specific you want to say, please say it. Otherwise I conclude that you have nothing except some suspicions/speculations that will not stand the test of disclosure and evaluation by others. Or, you just like to type.
Floyd What you are doing here and now is exactly what you accuse other bloggers of doing. Don't you see that???
ReplyDelete100% correct, BC.
DeleteHere's an interesting account of self-publishing, which rings true to me in terms of my limited info:
ReplyDeletehttp://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/01/a-self-publishing-success-story.html
The things about self-publishing that appeal to me:
--You get the story told
--You can reach your niche market via the internet
--You don't have to tell your point in advance to a lot of Nosy Parkers who might want to stop your book
--You retain copyright so you can later sell it, as this man did.
--Publishing on demand means you can do a rev ed at any time.
oops, my link is correct, but I linked it wrong. Correct now:
Deletehttp://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/01/a-self-publishing-success-story.html
Brad,
ReplyDeleteI think, book or no book, someone needs to publish a full account of all Palin's statements about her Pregnancy story, with links to the source material, or at least citations.
She has said so many crazy things, and so many contradictory things, that this alone would be damning. I imagine a timeline format detailing what she said happened on what date
(ie April 18, 2008 - Palin's parents hold Trig at Matsu hospital and announce he was born yesterday on Alaska TV. Palin states Trig was born in Anchorage (date of later interview). Palin states that Trig was born with a hole in his heart and 6 weeks premature. Palin states she signed legislation into law from her hospital bed (Palin's government email, dated...)
April 20, 2009 Palin takes Trig, now two days old with a hole in his heart and 6 weeks premature into the office (per her statement in her book)
etc etc etc.
OK Folks- Let's get ready... The GOP race is heating up. It's late January. Remember, four years ago, in 2008, the day after McCain got the nod, our girl, Granny Grifter announced that she was "pregnant." So maybe, just maybe, she's gonna be "PREGNANT AGAIN!!" Perhaps that's why she's bringing Trig Truthism into the dialogue.
ReplyDeleteSo I say, "Hell Yes!"-- a book about babygate could still be relevant and marketable IF it was written in the appropriate context and marketed well. ; ~ ))))
On a more serious note, I think this type of book could make headway if it was about truth and discernment in politics. Babygate helps us to understand deception and to learn how to detect it more easily. The three year process/blog community that many of us participate in has given us confidence in our own abilities to "see" and to "know" without reliance on "authorities." For me, that is the key.
I am not waiting for any mainstream news organization to break the story of babygate. We KNOW that plenty of folks in the media, political circles, etc. KNOW the truth. Plenty of us know the truth. It won't be any more TRUE if it is reported on CNN. If you still need to hear it there to believe it, then I suggest you are worshiping at the wrong altar. We have had ENDLESS discussions over the last three years about how broken the Mainstream Media is. We are practically living in a Pravda era-- so why are so many of us still WAITING for that tainted vehicle to deliver the truth? How many times do you go back to the boyfriend/girlfriend who cheated on you? How long does it take to learn to trust yourself and your NEW community of truth seekers?
Sarah Palin did not give birth to Trig. Period. We have had a terrific group of bloggers, researchers and commenters working on this for three years. Their work has convinced me. I don't need a talking head to tell me what I already know.
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@ Amy1 re: Floyd's book-- If you read his blog posts, then you have a good idea of what is in the book. ;~)
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Re GOPs: So when Newt discusses his anti-gay-marriage stance, he will have to say "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman and a woman."
ReplyDeleteHow long before we will start hearing that? Klown kar kandidates on parade. I hope everyone in SC votes for "Herb" Cain, like Colbert suggests.
Floyd says: "After two years of research to find the source of precisely why the Babygate story has yet to break nationally, I uncovered the stench. * * * The stench now emanates from the histories of the bloggers involved. You have never found the closure you so desperately seek because closure has never been their primary goal."
ReplyDeleteFloyd, was closure avoided because they wanted to keep what they learned secret until they put it in a book and made a profit?
I cannot believe that of Audrey and Regina. Hard to believe of Gryphen & Patrick. Certainly obfuscation has been the M.O. for Shannyn and Jeanne, but they are hardly Babygate bloggers.
Are you saying they withhold important info just to make it exclusive to their book? Are you sure this withheld info would have been the news that made the story "break nationally," in the MSM? If the MSM just doesn't like the "histories" of Gryphen & Patrick--even if they thought there were two Babygate camps at war matching outrageous claims--they could still verify facts themselves.
Maybe there's a blogging stench, but that wasn't there at the time Ezra Klein and his buddies decided hands-off-on-Babygate. They just don't want to know this story. Neither do my friends and family who roll their eyes when I try to tell them. The best Babygate book in the world may not sell. But it is still worth writing. It is a cautionary tale.
Brad, I will be happy to proof for you. No charge. :)
Good points, B.
ReplyDeleteFloyd regularly says things like "I uncovered the stench" and "I know the whole story of Fred," etc., but he never tells us what it is he uncovered or supposedly knows. Makes one think there's less to this than meets the eye. When pressed, he says none of it is in his book! (Just as I suspected, and my reason to keep my $17.95.) So where is the info? How would he have learned it? Why doesn't he speak up -- for the common good?
I too think the definitive babygate book should be written with an eye for the Pulitzer Prize (the common good) rather than an eye for profit. That's why I keep returning to self-publishing.
Perhaps he is suggesting that Gryphen and Patrick are stringing the story out so they can keep getting donations, not that they have books in the works. I don't buy it. I don't always agree with Patrick's conclusions and Gryphen's secrets, but I smell no stench.
DeleteHahaha: How is "Gryphen and Patrick . . . stringing the story out so they can keep getting donations" different from someone stringing out a stench (or non-stench, as the case may be) in order to sell his book? Not that I think anyone is doing that.
DeleteI too think there is no stench, nothing special to know. Just perhaps some gossipy things and criss-cross disagreements that are v much part of the cost of doing business in any walk of life.
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